Karl wrote :- "> > - Is there an official patch from Sun and what's the patch-ID? not as far as i know > - Has anybody talked to Sun about this problem? yes > - Is Sun working on a patch? yes." I have this problem logged with Sun. the latest (12:03 BST 19 Sept 95) is that T (test?) patches are available to existing fault call owners. If the problem is severe for you persuade Sun to send them. They are :- 4.1.3_U1 domestic libc = T101759-04 4.1.3_U1 international libc = T101558-07 4.1.4 domestic libc = T102544-03 4.1.4 international libc = T102545-03 These are betas and Sun will expect testing and a report. Andy Cowley